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Post by Pierce Cavanaugh on Jan 29, 2008 16:37:32 GMT -5
Dollar I don't know about the money in the bank match anymore. Mania is supposed to be outside this year and I'm not sure WWE is smart enough to rig something up that would provide them with a suspended breifcase. I could be wrong, but I don't think we are going to get one this year.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 16:42:31 GMT -5
The more I read it the more I agree with you Ninja on some points. Sure JBL vs. Cena could be done but it has been done. And who will Y2j fued with. Will we get HBK vs Cena again? Maybe it was damn good last year. Umaga vs Cena, nah! Cena vs. HHH does make sense but it has been done before as well and the Flair thing makes perfect sense. He is by far my favorite wrestler(Flair). So I hope he goes out right. Cena vs. Y2j could work if they both wern't faces. Same with Hardy but I think he will keep on fueding with Orton, plus I can't see Hardy main eventing WM just yet. But who knows maybe they will fool us all and have Orton beat Cena and then all bets are off. I know that will make some people happy.
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Post by "Untouchable" Jace Diggs on Jan 29, 2008 19:37:50 GMT -5
Blah. WWE needs to spice things up and the only way they can do that is to turn Cena heel. I mean look at the Elimination Chamber.
Triple Haych - face
HBK - face
Y2J - face
Hardy - face
JBL -heel
Umaga - heel
Does anyone see a problem with that? Why book 4 faces and 2 heels in a match? It should be an even number of both in a match like this because only 2 guys are going to be able to generate any heat and for the other 4 it's going to be a fight for who the fans cheer for.
WWE needs to turn Cena heel for two reasons. 1) because it'd be so unexpected and he'd generate so much heat it'd be sick. He's a face and already has a ton of boos, imagine if he could get all of the teenie boppers to boo him too? 2) Outside of Orton and JBL which other main event heels are there? Umaga?!?! He stumbles around the mid-card and then gets pulled up to main events only to make other guys look great (example: his feud with Cena. As if Umaga, a guy who doesn't speak let alone have any mic skills, would be Cena for the title). Kennedy?!?! This guy is utterly unimpressive. He got pushed too hard and too fast in my opinion. They handled him the wrong way and now he's searching for his identity out there in the ring, case in point he's gone through like 3 or 4 finishers already and he's still pretty new.
Okay anyone else left on the list? Nobody. They gotta do something drastic and as much as they hate to admit it, a Cena heel turn would be GREAT!
That's all for now.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 20:20:40 GMT -5
Sorry to burst your bubble Diggs but they won't do that. Simple WWE thinks Cena is there next Hogan. Sure he isn't cheered like Hogan was but he does have a limited move set like Hogan. I know I am going to get alot of heat for even saying this, but I am somewhat becoming a Cena fan. Why Rob why you might ask. Well it's not because of his wrestling skills, and his mic skills are decent at best. But for some reason he is becoming likable to me. But back to my arguement of Cena turing heel, I really can't see it happining, sure half the place boos him every night. But he won't I repeat won't turn heel, at least no anytime soon. If anyone turns heel it will be HHH or HBK, even Y2j has a better chance turning heel then Cena. I am sure you won't like it but we will most likly get a Face vs face match a WM. It happened last year and it was an awesome match. Who says it won't work again.
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Post by Dollar McDougal on Jan 29, 2008 20:20:41 GMT -5
"When it comes to retiring, the wrestling world gives you what you want."
This is definitely untrue. You NEVER get what you want. Especially when Vince McMahon is concerned. Wrestlers don't go on their own terms. Ask Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Brock Lesnar, Goldberg, Steve Austin, or any other number of former WWE wrestlers that question and get the same answer. It's all about the business and what's best for the business. And what's best would be to further Orton's gimmick - and his prestige - by having him go over Flair and send him into retirement.
HHH is a ready-made legend who has nothing to gain from it. If Vince is smart, which he is, he sends Orton to take out Flair. He needs that one big shot in the arm to get his character up to where they want him to be (they've been looking for it from both him and Edge for awhile now, and I don't think anyone's really bought it from either of them). This would be it.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 20:24:46 GMT -5
Flair is the man, has been for years and if DMD is right, which he could be, Orton would have all the bragging rights. It would be awesome for his character. Flair/Orton is a very likely if Cena beats Orton at NWO. HHH, HBK will both be in the HOF one day and as DMD said won't need to beat Flair in his last match. Someone younger like Orton, Kenndy, Edge will do it if the WWE is smart. But we all know the WWE isn't smart very much.
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Post by Dollar McDougal on Jan 29, 2008 20:38:16 GMT -5
Agreed, Rob. And Kennedy's got Flair at NWO, so it won't be Kennedy. Unless they're REALLY stupid and have it there (which one would think there'd be no chance of). And Edge - if all reports are correct (which sound logical, reasonable, and like the best scenario) - will be facing Taker.
Plus, the retirement threat match already happened with HHH a few weeks ago. Been there, done that.
Orton vs. Flair. Come ON.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 20:40:35 GMT -5
Well the Flair vs Orton already happened too so your argument on that isn't a valid one. Remember Jericho got involved.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 20:43:37 GMT -5
They could turn Cody Rhodesheel and have him beat Flair. Not to say that it should happen but it could and it would do wonders for him. Then again who knows if he can even play a heel. I doubt it will happen anyway.
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Post by "Untouchable" Jace Diggs on Jan 29, 2008 21:46:26 GMT -5
Did you just say what I think you said? Cody Rhodes? The generic create-a-wrestler from Smackdown!: Bring The Pain? Give me a freaking break. Stop smoking the crack pipe and getting crazy ideas Robbie.  |
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 29, 2008 22:39:32 GMT -5
I am think outside the box Diggs. You never know.
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Post by Cap'n Carnage on Jan 29, 2008 23:14:40 GMT -5
That box is a wet crumpled dirty one. Cody Rhodes? Next subject.
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Post by The Green Ninja on Jan 30, 2008 0:16:39 GMT -5
When it comes to a retirement, its a passing the torch of sorts. Its important to wrestlers to put someone over in their last match that they feel is worthy. When the wrestler has enough weight, he hand-picks his last opponent. Flair will pick HHH. None of the wrestlers DMD named were retiring, and most were on terrible terms with the company...and none of them are as important as Flair...not even Hogan. Flair wants HHH, he'll get it.
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Post by Dollar McDougal on Jan 30, 2008 13:24:48 GMT -5
Name one instance where that's actually happened though. In a world where wrestlers don't really retire, that doesn't happen at all. The only example is Trish Stratus winning the Women's Title in her last match, and that's just because it didn't matter at all.
Besides, Ric Flair just signed a three-year contract with WWE. It's not like he's just leaving after Mania. He'll be around. And if anyone knows wrestling, they know that Mania won't be his last match. You never retire. You just show up later.
The most important aspect is that in order for it to be HHH, he'd have to lose the Elimination Chamber match. And who's going to win then? Umaga's definitely out. Can't see HBK-Cena headlining two years in a row. Jeff Hardy's time in the main event sun is over until after Mania at least. JBL can't be the heel challenger coming after the face's title. That leaves Jericho, I suppose. And main eventing Mania WOULD be a good reason for him to agree to come back, I guess....
I suppose we'll just see on all of this.
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Post by Rob DiPietro on Jan 30, 2008 13:32:27 GMT -5
everyone is assuming Cena will beat Orton. It might not happen
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