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Post by Max Power on Jan 17, 2008 0:46:48 GMT -5
Million Dollar Man!!! I love the laugh!
As for today I would have to say I really enjoy HHH is promos rule and he's a good wrestler as well as Y2j.
As for TNA I like AJ Styles
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Post by Kirk Storm on Jan 17, 2008 10:06:33 GMT -5
Man....that's actually a hard question to answer.
There are of lot of wrestlers who have good talent, but only a handful that have everything.
My Favorites range from which time they are from, because characters gimmicks change so often.....
The mainstays are Undertaker, Rapper John Cena, Kane(with the mask) and Sting(Dark Sting).
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Post by Adrian Young on Jan 17, 2008 11:08:19 GMT -5
I'm not down with Kennedy or Jeff Hardy, but to each his own. You guys totally can be. I wouldn't expect many would be all over my Chavo pick either. Haha. I agree with Chavo. He's very very underrated and should win the ECW Championship. |
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Post by Pierce Cavanaugh on Jan 17, 2008 11:28:52 GMT -5
Yeah, I've got no beef with Chavo and in agreement with Adrian here, he should win the ECW title. CM Punk in my opinion is kinda a crappy champion. Plus, he's never had a good finisher. Let's face it, the anaconda vice was a piece and this new thing looks botched even when it's not.
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Post by Sage Christensen on Jan 17, 2008 11:37:15 GMT -5
By the new thing do you mean the Go 2 Sleep(kind of like an f5 but he knees him them in the head)? Because that move is badass
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Post by Pierce Cavanaugh on Jan 17, 2008 11:50:12 GMT -5
Dude, the move in theory is badass, but how it looks on TV, in my opinion, is just bad. Most of the time the knee is up to slow and the guys head is moving back before it's even close, or it's up to fast and he's actually coming down with it before the guy hits. I know your a CM Punk fan, but I just don't feel him man.
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Post by Sage Christensen on Jan 17, 2008 11:58:25 GMT -5
No, I agree that it does get sloppy from time to time, but its still one of the more original finishers, and I wouldn't say I'm a huge CM Punk mark, I just think hes one of the better ones among the newer talent
All time though it would definitely be HBK
His wrestlemania matches agianst Jericho and Angle are prolly the two best matches I've ever seen
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Post by Adrian Young on Jan 17, 2008 12:25:27 GMT -5
CM Punk was overhyped coming into WWE. I heard he was one of the best perfomers in the business, but I watched his indy work and it just didn't impressed me. Plus he doesn't bring any credibility to the title either. Chavo will as he's more respected and established in the business than Punk
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Post by Kirk Storm on Jan 17, 2008 12:35:47 GMT -5
Does anyone feel that Chavo is getting a push because since Eddie is gone, his story just has had nowhere to go?
I mean, I remember him with his damn little horse, Pepe, that was thrown into the woodchipper in WCW. Do we really want him as ECW Champion....
I'm sorry, I just don't think he's champion material. Not ECW, give the title back to Sabu. Hell, give it to Tommy Dreamer, give it to someone who DESERVES it....but don't give it Chavo. For the love of GOD, don't give it to Chavo.
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Post by Adrian Young on Jan 17, 2008 12:55:42 GMT -5
Come on, Chavo has earned his spot. He's been with the company since the buyout and he's a pretty good performer.
And we can't go on past gimmicks to determine champions. I mean, John Cena used the wigger gimmick and got a title run, Undertaker is basically a zombie and he's had title runs. Psycho Sid, Edge, Christian Cage, Chris Jericho and Batista all had goofy gimmicks in their careers before getting a respectable title run.
It's all about progression and Chavo has progressed.
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Post by Dollar McDougal on Jan 17, 2008 14:17:08 GMT -5
Chavo's (current) push has nothing to do with Eddie's death. It's been awhile now. MYSTERIO'S push had EVERYTHING to do with Eddie's death. But they made it work, so kudos to them, I suppose. As far as Chavo not being championship material, I think you're missing the fact that ANYONE can be the ECW Champion. There's no glory there. There really isn't. Look at the guys who've fought for it in the past year. Morrison. Viscera. Benjamin. Yes, I love Benjamin, but if you can't talk, you're not a "World" Champion. But in ECW, you can be. ECW's a joke and just a way to rake in a few more extra dollars and have somewhere to put some talent so that they don't run off to "that other place." And when I called Chavo one of my favorite in-ring performers, I wasn't thinking of him as a World Champion kind of guy (minus ECW, where, like I said, anyone can do it). I also listed Regal and Benjamin, and they're not World Title guys either. I was going strictly on in-ring performance. 'Cause if I were going just on character, I'd still be all over Hacksaw.  HOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
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Post by Dollar McDougal on Jan 17, 2008 14:18:45 GMT -5
And by the way, Sabu has the wrestling skill than anyone on the current ECW roster, which is REALLY bad, if you think about it. He could never really wrestle. He had a few high spot type things and could take a great beating. The only difference between Foley and Sabu is charisma and a little mic skill. At least Foley had/has that.
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Post by The Green Ninja on Jan 17, 2008 16:42:41 GMT -5
Kane was imposter deisel.
and Issac Yankem.
He was also a hell of a world champion.
Gimmick's don't matter y'all. When you get the right one, you get your push.
Personally I think Chavo's push does have alot to do with Eddy's death. I also think that if there was a way for Eddy's death to do something Eddy wold really approve of, it would be putting over Chavo. I think Chavo remained "the guy who used to have the horse" until Eddy's passing. Then Chavo became a representation of a great wrestling competitor, and a great wrestling family.
Lo and behold, Chavo's pretty damn good too. He just never had his chance to be taken seriously until Eddy died.
Mysterio, unfortunately, did get a huge push because of Eddy's death, revealing just how hard it was for Chavo to finally earn some status in the business.
In summary, if Eddy didn't die, neither Chavo or Rey Rey would be where they are. Chavo deserves what he got. Rey Rey doesn't.
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Post by Kirk Storm on Jan 17, 2008 17:19:02 GMT -5
Well, the way I look at it. Rey Mysterio had an opportunity to win the WCW World Title from Kevin Nash a while back if anyone remembers that. Chavo has been a jobber for 80% of his career...that's like giving the Brooklyn Brawler a world title reign. It just shouldn't happen. John Cena may have been a wigger, but he had mic skills and fan support. Undertaker is the crap, 'nuff said. Kane is not a rip off of Diesel, and even if he is, Diesel had a world title reign in WWF and WCW, so where's his next shot? DMD is right about ECW, however, I love ECW. I wish they'd make it more like ECW was back in the day before it was bought out. There were awesome talent there. Tazz for one, Tommy Dreamer, Sabu, Sandman, Balls Mahoney, Justin Credible, and the list goes on and on. However, Tazz didn't get any kind of push during his stint in WWE before retiring from the ring. joox.net/cat/236/id/1526652 That link will take you to a video of Sandman vs Sabu from back in the day where Sabu broke his jaw. They taped it and he finished the match. He may not have mic skills, but he's got heart and fan support and TONS of talent, so I disagree with DMD that Sabu never could wrestle. Sandman couldn't wrestle, Sabu can f'n wrestle. In essence, there are people more deserving than Chavo for ANY of the world titles. If he wins it, the already slight respect I have for wrestling will shrivel and disappear in the wind. SIDE NOTE: HACKSAW IS THE crap!!! |
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Post by Cap'n Carnage on Jan 17, 2008 17:45:01 GMT -5
I vote in favor of Pepe's return. I still call the horses in Walmart Pepe....right before I saddle one up and take it around the sporting good section for one good ride.
Speaking of finishers, since ya'll were talking about CM Punk's, does anyone like my new finisher? Carnage's unique new move he has earned his "only" two wins with.
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